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best LC album

Songs of Leonard Cohen
Songs From a Room
Songs of Love and Hate
New Skin for the Old Ceremony
Death of a Ladies' Man
Recent Songs
Various Positions
I'm Your Man
The Future
Ten New Songs
Dear Heather

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Offline Gazza

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Re: Leonard Cohen
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2005, 05:35:58 PM »
Is it just my imagination, or have covers of Hallelujah gone skyward since kd lang released her version?

Seemed for a long while as if Jeff Buckley had made it his own, but now it seems that everyone wants to have a go … I'd swear that I've heard three or four new versions in the past month or so.
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Re: Leonard Cohen
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2006, 09:11:22 AM »
Talking of the delights to be savoured by scouring European radio on the big beat, here's a link to a recent interview on Norwegian radio with Leonard Cohen. An endearing, enlightening and entertaining one too. The links on the right hand side take you to the streamed interview which includes an informal new recording of If It Be Your Will played by LC on the guitar demonstarating his chop.

http://www.nrk.no/programmer/radio/radiodokumentaren/5432400.html#
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Re: Leonard Cohen
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2006, 10:13:59 PM »
Leonard Cohen was inducted into the Canadian Songwriter's Hall Of Fame at the weekend and there's a report of proceedings here:

http://www.canada.com/topics/entertainment/story.html?id=6afc2456-93fa-411d-853e-fec0e2f0cbcb&k=55589

These hallowed portals seem to be springing up all over the place now. Is there an Australian Songwriters/Rock'n'Roll Hall Of Fame-type place yet?

There's also a very interesting Canadian TV News interview with the Suzanne that inspired Cohen's song here if you catch it quickly (I think it goes off stream some time in the next 24 hours if not already gone):

http://www.cbc.ca/clips/national/thenational.ram

Meanwhile, all his old flames seem to be coming out of the woodwork giving character references at the moment (and generally reassuringly pleasant). There's an interview with Marrianne of "So Long..." fame here that is longer and more deep in every sense:

http://www.leonardcohenfiles.com/marianne2006.html




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Re: Leonard Cohen
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2006, 02:49:26 AM »
Astonishing that he(Cohen) has only just made it. I'd have thought Joni Mitchell, all of the Band, Neil Young would have all
long been 'made' so to speak.I don't know if Australia has an
equivalent Hall of Fame but there is an annual APRA award where people meet to discuss the great shape of 'the industry'
and which has never seen fit to honour the Triffids, Go Betweens or Nick Cave to my knowledge, unless it was for the
duet with Kylie.By the way does anyone know Nina Simone's
'Suzanne' from the album 'To Love Somebody'? Sublime.

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Re: Leonard Cohen
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2006, 05:56:53 AM »
I don't know Nina's album but recently came across Simone's Suzanne on a "Best Of". She specialised in sublime.

On the other issues covered by your post, torch, I wonder to what extent Cohen's late acknowledgment in Canada is a result of him spending good chunks of his life in exile and how that choice might have also affected the Australian superstars you mention.

One thing's for sure. If Nick Cave had been born in England he'd have been awarded, knighted etc several times over by now (he has been the subject of a South Bank Show special, which in artistic circles amounts to pretty well the same thing).

Taking that a stage further, is that why Morrissey is the subject of much looking down of one's nose when he should be carried shoulder high through the streets when he deigns to foist himself upon us?
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Re: Leonard Cohen
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2006, 06:13:44 AM »
Taking that a stage further, is that why Morrissey is the subject of much looking down of one's nose when he should be carried shoulder high through the streets when he deigns to foist himself upon us?

Or cos he hasn't made a decent record since 1988?
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Re: Leonard Cohen
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2006, 09:07:47 AM »
I don't think Australian bands have suffered for spending so much tome overseas, usually until a band has had success in the U.K noone here's interested. This may be changing but it was certainly the case with the Triffids, Birthday Party etc. I envy the television you have in England. Anyone would think we
were a bunch of sport obsessed, philistines on viewing our t.v.
guide and , hey, that's not entirely true.       
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Re: Leonard Cohen
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2006, 09:23:30 AM »
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One thing's for sure. If Nick Cave had been born in England he'd have been awarded, knighted etc several times over by now

Well, knighthoods are not given out in New Zealand any more, but I'm happy to report that David Kilgour received the equivalent -the  NZ Order of Merit, in 2001.

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Re: Leonard Cohen
« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2006, 09:33:50 AM »
Anyone would think we
were a bunch of sport obsessed, philistines on viewing our t.v.
guide and , hey, that's not entirely true.

Sport obsessed philistines seems to be how the rest of the world tends (between tinnies) to view Australians, but I don't believe that's entirely true either ;D. Australian music, literature and movies have been some of the more interesting in recent times. I can only assume your televisual media is held back by the grip of Murdoch and other media oligarchs, much as ours is nowadays. Sky TV over here is unremittingly shite, but it seems that shite sells. And Sky largely sustains itself on live sport. Well, that and The Simpsons. Now that's what I call ironic.
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Re: Leonard Cohen
« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2006, 06:56:31 PM »
Actually Sports obsessed,philistines and bad winners let alone
losers pretty much sums us up. To keep things Cohen however
is there a recognized favourite album or has there been a poll
I think 'Death of a Ladies Man', 'New skin for the Old ceremony'
and maybe 'Various Positions'. Please feel free to tell me I'm out of my mind.                                Torch

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Best Leonard Cohen album
« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2006, 07:27:29 PM »
To keep things Cohen however
is there a recognized favourite album or has there been a poll
I think 'Death of a Ladies Man', 'New skin for the Old ceremony'
and maybe 'Various Positions'.

Here you go, Torch.
I think I'm going for I'm Your Man, after all.
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Re: Leonard Cohen
« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2006, 09:07:12 AM »
Someone on the weekend was telling me that Lorca was a spanish writer dude who was killed by the facists. I'd never heard of him, but it sounded suss, so best to find out I thought. I entered Lorca into my preferred most reliable source of wisdom, the Triffids forum search engine, and find that Lorca is IN FACT the daughter of Leonard Cohen :o. Who needs wikepedia!


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Re: Leonard Cohen
« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2006, 09:47:33 AM »
Correct on both counts. Frederico Garcia Lorca, the poet, is Leonard Cohen's Leonard Cohen ;D - that is, his chosen poetic hero of choice. So much so that he named his daughter after him. I don't know who he named his son, Adam, after but he must have been pretty cool too.

The song Take This Waltz on the mighty "I'm Your Man" album is apparently based on a Lorca poem. He's surprisingly difficult to find books by in your local record shop - Pablo Neruda's slightly easier to come by - but I can't claim to have tried all that hard - dissuaded by the prospect of reading poems in translation and the possible loss of the poetic essense that must flow from the process. Nick Cave also quotes Lorca in somewhat reverential terms in that speech he gave a few years back so it seems he might be your man's man when it comes to poetry - if that's not a contradiction in terms ;D.

Back to the poll, I don't think your choice is unreasonable, torch. Ladies Man is class in a polished desparation sort of way. Various Positions has some extraordinary moments - I would have thought most songwriters would have died happy if they'd only written one song as good as If It Be Your Will, Halellujah or Dance Me To The End Of Love. I can't comment on New Skin as I haven't played it all that often, but if I remember rightly it was one of glee's desert islanders.

Thanks to Johan for setting up the poll. I'll have to enter a monastery for a few years now to meditate and seek divine inspiration over the correct tick box to hit ;). Be back in five.
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Re: Leonard Cohen
« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2006, 10:33:08 AM »

 He's surprisingly difficult to find books by in your local record shop -
 

Jeez Urpal, are you suggesting I go into a book shop? :)

I'm ashamed to admit I only have one cohen album - the songs of  LC. I have got 'I'm your fan' though.  I'll vote for the one I know so I can I can find out which is the forum favourite.


Hmm, thats not many votes.

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Re: Leonard Cohen
« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2006, 10:35:43 AM »
I'm ashamed to admit I only have one cohen album

Don't worry. It wasn't so long ago people were ashamed to admit they'd got one ;D
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